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Nash · Aug 28, 2005, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Hoorah, lots of angry ticked off gaming nerds getting upset over "less than uber" builds.

This forum is for discussing what's good and what's not, not pat each other on the back in every thread, in some sort of club for mutual admiration. If you have a problem with people criticizing "less than uber" builds, then I suggest you stay away from the Build discussion forum. Thank you for your useless post, now troll elsewhere.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Aug 28, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by Nash

This forum is for discussing what's good and what's not, not pat each other on the back in every thread, in some sort of club for mutual admiration. If you have a problem with people criticizing "less than uber" builds, then I suggest you stay away from the Build discussion forum. Thank you for your useless post, now troll elsewhere.

Exactly. I saw nothing but useless posts in here doing nothing but putting people down. If you didnt like the build, you didnt have to post. Feedback is fine, but coming in here with your superiour snotty attitude is pointless.

Try again.

Slade xTekno · Aug 28, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Wow. I come back from hanging out with friends to find my thread has doubled in size. Unfortunately, half of it is simply elitist fluff.

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

Probably because I'm elitist.

Fixed.

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Originally Posted by Nash

The reason I and many others post posts like that, is that we've seen stuff like this so many times over, refuted it, have had people ignore our input and stick to their stupid builds, etc. Frankly, we're getting tired of posting the same things over and over, just to have people decide they know better anyway (which they don't).

OK, you want constructive?

Warrior primary is better.
16 in your weapon attribute, and some Strength owns using Expertise. Not enough energy? Adrenaline. It's there for a reason, so is Zealous haft.

This build is better:

16 Axe
9 Strength
10 Smiting

Frenzy
Penetrating Blow
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Disrupting Chop
Sprint
Strength of Honor
Res Signet

You are so blinded by your elitism and so quick to judge that you have the nerve to think that I am looking for the "best" build. I said it "worked well," which has two letter in common with "best." If you have not noticed, I have responded to useful input others have made and have even made adjustments to my initial build.
Just because it isn't the best makes it stupid?

Fragility/Virulence, E/W Earthshaker/Aftershock, E/Mo healer, R/Me IW, and Pure Mesmer UW Solo Farmer are far from the best builds, but they work and are a refreshing break from the cookie cutter builds currently out there [an example of which you ever-so-graciously posted]. I apologize for the fact that I'm playing to have fun instead of to win the Hall of Heroes. Some of us like to experiment and stray off the beaten path; we don't like to feel like herded sheep.

I regret to say that I have not unlocked a majority of the skills. I apologize for the fact that I am trying to play with what I have instead of mindlessly farming.

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Originally Posted by BBoy_Manchild

i use a ranger/warrior for pvp this is my build

eviscerate
axe rake
whirling defense
lightening reflexes
throw dirt
apply poison
troll unguent
res sig

10 axe
9 tact
10 expertise +3 superior +1 mask
7 wilderness survival +1 minor

10/10 sundering pvp axe of +5 defense
poisoners pvp axe of +5 defense

Very cool. You used the Ranger primary for the Expertise line of skills more than the energy reduction of Expertise. I'll try it sometime.

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Originally Posted by Nash

Again an example of how people don't know how to make a good build.
If your logic fails, there's atleast a bunch of threads containing help. Instead, people make some random build and go post it and claim it's good because they can win in arena.

Aw, there you go again about not best = stupid. I'll be perfectly honest and tell you that I played the Ice Cave Ressurection Shrine map for the first time today when I won 14 rounds in a row with my team.
Maybe I'll intentionally keep my skills unlocked, for I fear the game will lose it's fun once I get them all.

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Hoorah, lots of angry ticked off gaming nerds getting upset over "less than uber" builds.

You tell them. I'm sorry that I have a life, complete with a girlfriend, a job, and school.

EDIT: Oh damn, more replies. =O

Nash · Aug 28, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27

If you don't care about the best, then don't bother with this forum. I'm done with this thread, discussing scrub stuff is a waste of time.

Yen-lo-wang · Aug 28, 2005, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Nash

Again an example of how people don't know how to make a good build.
If your logic fails, there's atleast a bunch of threads containing help. Instead, people make some random build and go post it and claim it's good because they can win in arena.

But since they can win in arena with it, doesn't that at least make it useful? Not everyone does Tombs/HoH, you know. I've only been in there a couple of times myself (well, I'm not a big PvPer period, but the point stands). Seriously, just because they can't make "1337" builds like you doesn't mean they're some moron, like you've been implying this entire thread. Maybe it's just a build they had fun with, and wanted to share it. Is that so bad?

Slade xTekno · Aug 28, 2005, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Note to Nash: As anonymous as you are online, leaving before a fight is over is still considered as admitting defeat.

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Originally Posted by Yen-lo-wang

But since they can win in arena with it, doesn't that at least make it useful? Not everyone does Tombs/HoH, you know. I've only been in there a couple of times myself (well, I'm not a big PvPer period, but the point stands). Seriously, just because they can't make "1337" builds like you doesn't mean they're some moron, like you've been implying this entire thread. Maybe it's just a build they had fun with, and wanted to share it. Is that so bad?

Thank you. Have you tried R/W? It's different, but you seem to be the type that would try it.

Yen-lo-wang · Aug 28, 2005, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Rangers haven't really been a class I can play that well in GW so far... mostly I'm a Monk and Mesmer kind of guy. It does sound intriguing though, and could be played with a lot and still be effective... may have to give it a shot.

Slade xTekno · Aug 28, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Agreed; I'm the same as you. Keep it in mind, though.

Yen-lo-wang · Aug 28, 2005, 05:32 AM // 05:32

One not-so-minor issue is that I think I have all of twelve Ranger skills unlocked, so making any kind of a ranger-related build will be tricky... but again, I will most certainly keep a build like this in mind, since I do intend on improving on my Ranger skills (or the lack thereof

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neoflame · Aug 28, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno

leaving before a fight is over is still considered as admitting defeat.

Oh noes, e-fight for e-reputation!

Warrior primary is important for axes, because axes mean damage. Your (OP's) build is bad, because it is no more effective than a Warrior primary, and you're using a Sundering axe (and 8 wasted points in Tactics FTW!)

In the end, though, it boils down to Timmy/Johnny/Spike. You (probably Timmy/Johnny) can run axe R/W's with more showiness (10% AP, 10% of the time, guys! And all of my attacks are +something... even if it's stuff like +10, and doesn't make up for my 4 fewer attribute points and lack of Strength QQ) than effectiveness, and hate builds because they're "cookie-cutter", but don't be surprised when Spikes laugh at you.

Eonwe · Aug 28, 2005, 07:09 AM // 07:09

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Originally Posted by Nash

If you don't care about the best, then don't bother with this forum. I'm done with this thread, discussing scrub stuff is a waste of time.

I'll have to agree with Nash.

Slade xTekno · Aug 28, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Damn straight, neo, because emuscle is very substantial. The internet is serious business, just like MySpace lol.
BTW, the 8 Tactics was for a shield I scrounged up in PvE. That, or I could have gone shieldless and caught even more flak than I am now. >_<

You read me. I don't know of any others who played BW Death Grasp/Agenda, GW Rebel Weenie [Cho-Manno + Armadillo Cloak = lol], or $6 Sligh [10 commons for $1]. Maybe I should get back into that... when does this cycle end?